Wednesday, September 19, 2007

People of India and 6th Pay Comission

People of India and 6th Pay Comission

Government people saying that with such a pay,
1. Are they able to buy a house in metro cities ( Delhi , Banglore , Bombay etc.),
2. education is going costly - how they educate their child for engineering etc.
3. In private sector a young age 18-22 person are getting salaries 18K - 40 K easily , while in Government sector people are getting approx 10 K for a Group C post and they are going to such level 18K or max at the age of retirement.
4. How they marry their child and feed themselves ( Inflation is too high, when the 5th pay comission comes and now 6th pay comission comodity prices increases too much, you can compare these).

A friend told another story -
He is saying why government should not adopt hire and fire policy, less staff, computer savvy, laptop should be provided to them, so they can work from home also, mobile should be provided to them for any emergency work.Any fault/problem should be faced by Team Leader (Director / Administrative Officer), transperency should be there. Whatever a junior person demands, he/she can send copy message to his Director/Team Leader and also to minister of his department, coz lower cadre persons voice always cut down and they are facing consequences. Voice chat / video conferencing system should be there, camputerize databsae maintain, online service should be provided.
There should be a way ( Anonymously) so that lower cadre person can say to all people (Higer cadre / Public) coz senior persons creates problems and they are root of corruption.
In all government appointment promotion there should be an examination, and if a person fails in that he should be demoted also. Corrupt people should be penalize and remove from the job.

What People are saying about 6th Pay Comission

What People are saying about 6th Pay Comission

1) The lowest level of technical maintenance staff in S&T organization is presently inducted as Signal Maintainer-II/Signal Maintainer-III with pay scale of Rs. 4000 - 6000 & Rs.3050 - 4590 with qualification of 12th class Science / matriculation required technical trade from ITI. The signal and telecom maintainers attend to the technical gadgets and equipment, which are used for train operation i.e. control communication system, signaling and interlocking equipment at the station, tele-communication & data-com equipment etc. As against this, a stationmaster who is a non-technical person with simple graduation degree (Arts/commerce/Science) and whose job mostly involves logging of train timings, waiving of flags and exchange of private number on telephones, ticket selling etc. is paid starting salary in the scale Rs.5000-8000/-. Thus, there is a substantial gap between the starting salary of technical staff performing skilled job and non-technical staff performing routine job. In addition, the technical staff has to keep the outdoor equipment / system functional during day or night, rain or sun shine for all 365 days in a year under all weather conditions. As against this Station master%u2019s job is predominantly in-door job except during emergencies. Presently, the channels of promotion for the maintenance staff in S&T organization are poor compared to non-technical operating/commercial staff posted at stations. The anomaly should be removed by giving the signaling/telecom s

2) S&T has the additional task of providing technological infrastructure for ensuring safety in train operation in addition to providing S&T systems for optimum utilization of fixed & mobile infrastructure of track, rolling stock etc. A bulk of workforce in S&T organization at supervisor and officer levels is drawn from the engineering discipline of Electronics & Telecommunication. This engineering discipline presently constitutes bulk of the feeder category to the sunrise industry i.e, IT, Communication and bio-technology. Not only their starting salary in private / corporate sector is high in comparison to government salary but also the rise is very fast both in terms of money as well as promotions. In S&T organization in Railways, recruitment at lowest supervisory level i.e. JE-II is done by inducting Diploma holders in Electronics/Communication and at officers level with BE/ME in Electronics/Communication/Computers. All these disciplines commend good salary at the time of appointment in corporate sector and very good pay rise during their service. Consequently, Railway is facing acute shortage in supervisory as well as officer categories in S&T organization. This can be eradicated partly by giving higher grades to both supervisors and officers so as to narrow down the gap between the government and corporate sector. Presently S&T maintenance staff and supervisors are required to do maintenance work in regular 8 hour shift daily. In addition to this routine maintenance work

3) We are tech railway staff. In railway very unjustice done in every pay comm. The people who are directly associated with train movement thay always negaleted.In all pay comm their pay strucher going to reduce.The people which are non technical and not any direct relation with train movement their pay going high to high in each pay comm.The dept like Engg., Mech, Signal & Telecom, electrical and optg dept are directly relation with train moment. Where as pay increase for Account staff, clerkical staff.For Example minimum qulification of a clerk is matric where as qulification of a technician is metric with ITI (most of diploma candidate join).Their pay scale starting with 950/- where as next promotion of clark in 4500/- where as a technical staff promote to 4000/-. Technical staff are working round the clock for railway.Their are work in the field both day and night.Now day they handel most sofistcated equpment. Trere fore we reuested please do justice with us. For which we shall remain greatful to you.

4) News - ISRO bleeds as scientists leave , to see news - click here

"The stupendous growth of IT and communications sector and the higher remunerative packages offered by the private sector are the main reasons for scientists/engineers to leave ISRO," Chavan said. The Department of Space (DoS), he said, had petitioned the Sixth Pay Commission for higher pay and incentives like performance-based increments and special allowances as one of the measures to retain talent. A similar request was made on behalf of the DAE. But a Pay Commission source said they had received such petitions from "everyone". "Everyone is dangling the quit threat if salaries are not hiked substantially," he said. "It's too early to say, but we're not sure if all demands can be met, considering the expenses involved. Even if we recommend higher pay scales and a better incentive regime, it is up to the government to accept or reject the recommendations."

5 ) Armed Forces Seek 300 to 400 Percent Pay Hike For Soldiers : To see details visit here

Here is a brief list of the recommendations:▪ A 300-400 per cent rise in basic pay - 400 per cent more than the current basic, and two and a half times more than basic plus Daily Allowance (DA). ▪ Something called Military Service Pay to compensate the X factor – especially the dangerous nature of the job, staying away from family, and frequent shifts. Across the board, armed forces personnel have demanded a 40 to 50 per cent hike of basic salary. ▪ The forces also want an Incentive Pay, aimed at specialists like engineers and pilots who often quit the Army for better opportunities in the private sector. So, after 15 years, if armed forces officers want to stay on, they will get a year's basic salary extra. What these conditions aim to do is benefit 2 million officers and men of the armed forces and if implemented, could come as a godsend for millions of retired officers and men as pensions would also rise considerably. It will however be up to the Sri Krishna commission to look at the issue and decide on a special package. The Indian Army alone has over 1,300,000 active soldiers. A pay hike however is warranted considering the rising inflation over the past few years. Attractive salaries will also invite some of the countries brightest talent to serve in the Armed Forces.

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RECOMMENDATIONS TO SIXTH CENTRAL PAY COMMISSIONBY BORDER SECURITY FORCE — AT A GLANCEP
1Group ‘A’ establishment of BSF is to be treated as an Organized Service.
2 Change of designation of 2nd–in-Command as Additional Commandant.
3 Inspector of BSF should be given Group ‘B’ Gazetted status.
4 Up-gradation of enrolled followers of BSF in the grade of skilled persons and to place their pay in pre-revised scale Rs.3050-4590 (S-5). Existing pay scales should be increased by 4 times.
5 The abolished ranks of LNK and NK should be restored with appointment pay Rs. 500 pm for LNK and Rs.800 pm for NKs.
6 Non-combatised civilian posts should be granted replacement scales as admissible to analogous posts of CSS cadre.
7 Separate Pay scale should be granted to ADIG rank.
8 Up-gradation of the pay Scale of Inspector from Rs.6500-10500 to Rs.7500-12000 in the pre-revised scale. 9 Constable (Rs.3050-4590) is promoted to Head Constable (Rs.3200-4900) after 18-20 years. Therefore, pay scale of Head Constable should beenhanced proportionately considering years of service they have to put forth for promotion.
10 Pay scale of Section Officer (Rs.6500-10500) of BSF may be placed in the scale Rs.8000-13500 after 4 years as admissible in the case of CCS cadres in GOI.
11 Pay scale of Assistants (Rs.5500-9000) should be placed in the scale Rs.6500-10500 as admissible in the case of CCS cadres in Central Government.
12 Rate of Increment is to be 5 % of basic pay and should be granted inJanuary every year irrespective of actual date of increment.
13 Pay scales of Law cadre officers should be at par with GD officers and to be granted NPA @ 30%.
14 DACP to be extended to Veterinary Officers of BSF.
15 ACP to be granted to Para-Veterinary staff in BSF.
16 Incentive for flying hours to BSF Air Wing officers and technical staff/crew. 16A Technical Qualification Allowance to Pilot Co- Pilot and Engineers. 16B Allowance to Accountable Manager/Chief Engineer/Quality ControlManager/Dy Quality Control Manager in Air Wing.
17 Technical Pay Rs.200 pm to ASI(RM) and Rs.400 pm for SI(RM) to be granted. 18 Pay scale of Pharmacists should be placed at par with analogous ranks of GD. 19 Existing Special pay to Key Appointments to be doubled. Spl pay Rs.200 pm to be granted to Nursing Assistants.

2 ALLOWANCES20 Hardship allowance @ 50% to 30 % of Basic Pay to BSF Pers OR In addition to existing allowances Hardship allowances to BSF Personnel – Extreme hard area-40%,very hard area–35% & hard area – 30% of BP ELSE Counter Insurgency/Counter terrorism allowance @ 35% of basic payELSE Internal security duty allowance @ 20% of basic pay.21 Percentage for grant of CILQ to Head Constables (47%), Constables &Followers (35%) should be enhanced to 100%.22 Rate of CILQ be worked out based on the City/Town where family residing instead of lowest rate of HRA component.
23 House rent allowance to be revised to 40%, 30%, 20% & 15%.24 Classification of city/town for grant of House Rent Allowance should bereduced to A-1, A, B & C. 25 HRA component being paid to the Central Government employees may bekept out from the purview of Income Tax. 26 HRA for keeping family any where in India be extended to Pers posted in Rann of Kutch, Creek areas of Gujarat and NE Region without any mention of last place of posting — Double HRA.27 Increase the amount of initial uniform grant (Rs.6500) to Rs. 25,000 and renewal grants (Rs.3000 after 7 years) to Rs. 10,000 after every three years. 28 Increase of Kit Maintenance Allowance (Rs.150) to Rs.800 pm to officers. Increase of Washing Allowance (Rs.30) to Rs.300 for ORs and Rs.600 for SOs. 29 Increase of Children Education Allowance (Rs.100) to Rs.1000 (Class 1 to 12), Rs.2000 for Graduation and Rs.3000 (PG level). Hostel Subsidy (Rs.300) to Rs.2000 (Class 1 to 12), Rs.3000 (Graduation) and Rs.5000 (PG level). 30 Detachment Allowance should be @ 50% of DA rates instead of ¼ rates. 31 Border belt be treated as expensive equivalent to ‘A’ class for drawl of all types of allowance for troops deployed on border.32 Increase of Tpt Allowance—Rs.5000(GOs), Rs.3500 (Insp) & Rs.2000 (Others). 33 To abolish concept of Campus for pers posted at Trg Institutions for grant of transport allowance. 34 RMA should be exempted from the purview of Income Tax. 35 Ration Money should be entitled during leave. 36 Uniform Rate of RMA for ration worth 3,850 calories for troops at static locations.

79 Period of hospitalization due to sickness on duty should be regularized bygranting hospital leave with full pay and allowance as admissible in Army. 80 RMA should be paid during hospitalization period and at higher rates. 81 Monetary benefit to be extended to honorary ranks in BSF. 82 Spl incentive for upbringing female child. PENSION & GRATUITY83 Separate pension rules to be framed for BSF personnel. 84 CCS (Pension) Rules to be made applicable to BSF personnel joined service after 01.01.2004 also. 85 Increase of percentage of family pension to widows and disability pension to handicapped pers recommended. 86 Full pensionary benefits on completion of 30 years of qualifying service instead 33 years and three additional notional increments to be added in the basic pay for the purpose of calculation of pension. 87 Upper ceiling limit for Retirement Gratuity should be removed. 88 Higher rates of service of gratuity to those who invalided out from service before completion of 10 years of qualifying service. 89 Provision of pension/gratuity to those leaving service on completion of 10 years qualifying service due to compelling domestic circumstances. 90 Ex-gratia payment admissible should be enhanced three times. 91 Enhanced rate of family pension should be allowed upto the date of on which deceased employee would have attained the age of 67 years of 10 years from the date of death. 92 Recommended payment of liberalized pension to children of deceased BSF personnel in the cases widows remarries. 93 Provision for payment of portion of family pension/Ex-gratia and lump sumcompensation etc. to dependent parents recommended. 94 Insurance amount assured under CGEGI scheme to all categories of personnel should be increased — Rs. 10 lacs for GOs, 7 lac to SOs and 5 lacs to ORs. 95 BSF pers remain on duty 24 hours a day, 7 days in a week round the year.Therefore, BSF pers be treated on duty all times for all service benefits except unauthorized absence, self inflicted injuries and willful misconduct. 96 Amendment of definition of family to include dependent minor brothers and sisters in the cases of those who die in service as bachelor. 97 Medical Allowance admissible (Rs.100) to retirees be increased to Rs.2000 pm. 98 Special benefits to allow ex-gratia lump-sum compensation to disabled personnel boarded out on medical grounds due to injuries suffered during combat operations of other duties should be increased to 75% of lump-sum exgratia amount.

pay commission could derail government finances

pay commission could derail government finances

The Sixth Pay Commission, set up last year to recalibrate the wages of 5.5 million federal government workers, is scheduled to submit its report in April 2008.
If the panel is anywhere near as generous as its predecessor 10 years ago --
the Fifth Pay Commission recommended a 31 percent increase in base salaries,
effective from 1996 -- the economy will pay a heavy price.

Source - Herald Tribune ( http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/09/11/bloomberg/sxview12.php ) Published: September 11, 2007

Sixth Pay Commission may derail economy

Sixth Pay Commission may derail economy ( http://in.rediff.com/money/2006/feb/09mspec.htm )

'The Fifth Pay Commission (set up in 1994) recommendations resulted in a Rs 530 billion payout by the government. The next (sixth) pay commission would effectively wind up Indian sovereignty.


Pay Comission - administrative system/mechanism that the Government of India set up in 1956 to determine the salaries of government employees.

1st pay comission - set up in 1956

Fifth Pay Commission - central government declared salary and allowances hikes for its approximately 3.3 million employees, and insisted that the state governments too revise the pay of their employees as per the Commission's recommendations

Result - Before the Fifth Pay Commission recommendations came into effect, the central government's wage bill (including pension dues of Rs 50.94 billion) stood at Rs 218.85 billion in 1996-1997.

Some of recommendations by Fifth Pay Commission's included cut down the government workforce by 30 per cent; abolishing 350,000 vacant posts and reducing the number of pay scales from 51 to 34, none of which were implemented.

Sixth Pay Commission - Communist leaders and trade unions have been demanding the setting up of such a commission

The committee, headed by Cabinet Secretary B K Chaturvedi, turned down the request for constituting the Sixth Pay Commission. The committee said the Centre might not be able to bear the additional burden and the states were just recovering from the impact of the Fifth Pay Commission, whose recommendations were implemented in 1997.

What People are saying -
1 ) i have been working in railways for the past six years.i am getting gross salary of around 10,000/-pm. do you think with this salary a family can fulfill his basic needs(food,dress,house)? it is true nowadays buying a house in chennai or other cities is not possible for goverment employees. i like to say the pay commision should have to view the issue in such manner.

2) There are many contraversies regarding pay commission & payments to central Govt employees. You Please think youself what a pity figure a engineer/ scientist/ Doctor/PG is getting after 20 yrs of cream period of his service ........... 25-30thousand p.m. In other sectors a personnel of similar qualification normally gets... Private...............60,000-150,000p.m. Public................50-80 Thousands Airlines 80-150 " Consultacies 80-140 " Pvt Coaching 80-150 " Pvt Business 100-250 " Politics No limit In other words U my say that today semi-skilled labourer is much better than average govt employees. I will request to pay commission to remove the disparity in emoluments in govt,autonomus and private sectors so that they can run their family with at par status. Also suitable measures should be taken to improve the workin-environment so that they may give maximum output they can.

To Know more visit - http://in.rediff.com/money/2006/feb/09mspec.htm

Approx 40 percent jobs may be cut

Approx 40 percent jobs may be cut to implement 6 pay comission

Sixth Pay Commission may recommend reduction in the work force by 40% to compensate the probable increase in the payments to the employees.

The Centre is of the opinion that financial burden on the government after implementing the possible increase in the salaries can be nullified by cutting employee strength by 40%. Additionally, specialists of the Centre are in the favour of reducing specialist jobs in the Government. They want to abolish the vacant posts in the government. Centre has not finalised its opinion about the nature of the posts to be abolished. Specialists of the Centre will give its report to the Pay Commission with some examples. It will be clealy mentioned that if only the recommendations of the improvement of the financial increment are accepted then it can be disastrous. According to the sources of the Centre, some State governments have directly approached the Centre and given it opinion.